MINI- PUTV 3D Models Showcase Progress & Tips

This is the model that used the 32 GB RAM I guess. The figure has a couple of details, and the scan looks gorgeous.
For 32 GB is a decent task in my mind, anyway at a bigger model you can always decrease the point cloud if you need less usage of RAM.
Can’t wait to see the dust at 0.02mm what is the usage.

@MedievalKing yes it used 32GB while processing ( point fusion of 85 millions points) I could easy set the pitch point at 0.05mm as this level of resolution was not nesesery, since this figure has medium level of details .
It was just a test to see how much Revo Scan will use resources at that size .

After it was processed and meshed the object size was 1.9GB , It could by decimated to less than 100K and still looks the same in appearance.

MINI can pick up 3D spray on the surface if the surface is very flat , how closer your object how finer the details .

I will do human bust scan on Sunday at 0.02mm , it will probably take me 50 min to fuse it at that resolution .

Thanks @MedievalKing

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Does Revo Scan use separate cache, if you have it set up? Thanks

Every model folder has own cache folder , you can change where you want it to be before scanning . If you don’t, it gonna go to own main directory by default .

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Thank you. I"ll change it and see how that goes.

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Eric, the best way to go under settings in Revo Scan and change the path there . After new installation of the software , you will need to change the path again as it do not remember.

For temporery change of the location , you can do that after you click New Scan , so everything will be saved in that location , the cache and the whole project of the model session .

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I will proceed as you described. Thank you.

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I can’t wait to try out the MINI!!
I have some dragon teeth to make and I hope to use your way!
Can’t wait for the video on YT!!
I have watched all your other vids and they are great!!

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If you have idea for the design , you can drop it to my PM .
I finished the first part of the video , now will record the design .

I am thinking about using PVA polyvinyl alcohol filament for printing to replace the “wax” or “clay” in the classic process . You could print it out and cast it , later disolve in water and cast the final teeth as usual .
But don’t know if the wet stone will affect the filament before the stone harden.
Just an idea .

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Thanks a lot ! Glad you like it .

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I tried another stress with 7 inches / 170mm/17cm figure to see if last time it was just isolated issue or not , and indeed I reach over 15GB while fusing the point cloud at 0.02mm .
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Now I understand why Revopoint MINI specifications on KS are Pitch Point 0.05mm and 16GB RAM requires for your workstation.

Because if you want higher resolution than 0.05mm, 16GB will be not enough for your system to handle it while scanning 7 inches figure at 0.02mm pitch point and you will need to fuse it half way down before scanning the rest .
The fusing and meshing also taking much longer even with 7 inches figure .
It used around 60% the CPU and 8GB to mesh it in less than 5 min inside Revo Scan .

So just be aware that there is not need to use 0.02mm pitch point resolution on any objects unless it has fine details of a hand palm wrinkle and you want to capture it .
The accuracy will be already there even at 0.05mm or 0.1mm pitch point with most objects .

If you scan objects that do not have any fine details as mentioned before , and fuse it at 0.02mm you can actually induce artificially not necessary noises that never was there in first place .

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Scan for today with MINI Shungite Buddha

Buddha2

Buddha1

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here is your requested 3D Scan of the dust :wink:

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Thanks again for all the scan tests, would it be possible to include a photo of the original along with a photo of your scanning location / turntable? It would give a good idea for best practice for new users. By far the best scan results I’ve seen have been from you, so whatever workflow / knowledge / experience you’d like to share, I’m willing to learn.

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That was a misspelled word, “dust” - “bust”, but the result wasn’t bad, not at all, it was a great misspelling, I didn’t realize you can even see the dust scanning, a great piece of equipment.

Even so I guess you didn’t had the opportunity to make the bust scanning, right?

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Now I know why the scanning spray makes the scan not that clean…

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Thanks @johnchen click on my name you will find my other thread with stuff from couple months back . Beside MINI everything still the same , also visit my YT to see things in action .

There is really nothing special , just keep the proper distance and in most cases the scanner at 45 degrees from the objects, sometimes I move it from top to bottom slowly if I want to capture everything at this once , with the dual axis turntable things going to be even more easy .

In 95% i keep my scanner stationery in one and the same distance , since MINI is sensitive to changed distance while scanning , since we want the best sharpness, keeping the same distance is a key at that accuracy and resolution.

I think other beta users doing great job as well in their own categories.

The best learning curve is actually practice , trial and error , some objects are easy, others are not so . I do couple tests before final scanning to learn the object and see what is the best approach for final smooth workflow .

The workflow how to use it is very simple, but to actually scan each object with different features will request adjusting in the workflow for that specific object .
Once you scan lots of different types of objects, you starting to recognize the pattern and adjust the proper workflow for the best results .

The same when doing molds for an object, one need just one part, others needs 3 or more . Same thing when scanning , sometimes 45 degrees is just enough for quick scan, sometimes it needs different angles to be fully captured .
Organic models are the most easy to scan , as they create less shadows while scanning and no sharp corners .

Tomorrow I give myself some challenge to scan an object with MINi that is constructed like a frame without solid core . I wonder how MINI going to handle that .

Also I have some simple idea for the beginners , how to to setup their scanning station with proper distances for less headaches while scanning .

I was also very surprised today when scanning the dust on the plexy glass, without any additional objects the Scanner did not lose it’s tracking , since the tracking features was actually the dust itself and the smile face, did not expected it gonna to work, so very nice surprise.

Also my MINI prototype can’t scan closer than 15cm , it should get to minimum distance of 10cm what could create even more fine details while scanning very small objects , but once we can calibrate it our beta devices may improve even more for sure .

Also MINI is very sensitive to raw or smooth surfaces , so scanning objects with very raw surfaces will collect a lot more data and slow down the process , so if the object wish to be scanned smooth , I would recommend to set the pitch point on higher value to avoid the not needed data and processing time , like for example cleaning the object from any kind of dust or particles , unless you want that texture on your object .

Same goes for people that will use MINI for reverse engineering, setting it on higher settings will not do any better work , you can still keep it at 0.05 or 0.1 mm pitch point and have excellent details with smoother surfaces for your reverse engineering modeling .

As I said before , 1000 objects and each needs own specific scanning settings and approach. There is not one direction for everything .

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That was a great opportunity to see the dust in action, did not expected that .
So I am glad you misspelled it.

Yes the 3D spray AESUB BLUE will create the surface not even if you scan very smooth surfaces , you will need to increase the pitch point values to 0.05mm or until you see everything smooth .

I purchased the other 3D spray and will use my airbrush with 0.7mm nozzle to improve the results , can spray is too thick, and I can’t always use Zinc Oxide . Also I believe the nano Zinc Oxide will be even better choice for the very small objects , but the nano needs special environment to be sprayed , as it can become irritating to eyes and lungs so better not use it at home and keep using the regular cosmetic grade only for your own safety.

I did not got the chance to scan the human bust yesterday , model was not available in the time frame . But it is on my list so I will do it ASAP.

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No hurry, you did a great work so far.

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@dfodaro , New MINI challenge a 0.76mm pin

and we got some fingerprints this time :astonished:

POP2 limits was 2mm

MINI Distance from the object at 10cm/100mm

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