yes, stupid me, I actually was thinking of rigid surface with fixed marker position, which magic mat as delivered by revopoint clearly isn’t.
but either contraption aka rigid jig/markerplate would work, even as vertical setup ,right? vertical as something like this pillars , but of course, with rigid/fixed position, attached to a marker plate.
Everything will works as long the individual markers don’t shift .
So if you use 2-3 pillars for global cloud scan they will need to stay in that position to be able to reuse the global markers , if you move one of the pillar it will not work .
So recommended some more stable setup .
For small and short objects a plate setup is just fine as it working just great and you can actually move the object while scanning … to catch all angles as long markers don’t change position to each other .
You also need at least 5 markers to be visible in each frame so very crowdy setup .
With big objects it gonna be complicated , if you put markers on that object , they need to stay there however the object can be rotated while scanning as long all markers rotate with it , meaning if you put them on an object , you can’t have them on the plate or you will be not able to move the object while scanning .
Right now you can save 1 global market scan in one project but it may change in the future .
I just got POP3+ one week ago so not enough time to explore all its new possibilities and features as with all new scanners it needs practice and new workflow .
To be continued…
Am I getting it right that this new marker mode is only useful if I don’t have to reposition my object?
No, you can reposition your objects if the markers are not direct on your object . You can’t reposition your markers it need to match the already pre scanned Global Marker Frame .
Actually it works very well , even if you scan multiple objects using it .
But only with pause and resume, not merging afterwards? Because the object has another position according to the markers after repositioning…
No matter pause or resume or merging or different objects .
You can scan many objects using global markers as long you do not replace the market positions to each other . So if you use markers on a plate , you can scan whatever you want and how much you want .
The object position don’t matters , marker position matters in this case . As long the markers are not on that object you free to do whatever you please .
But when i set my object one time in the middle of the turntable, and one time onto the rim, the position according to the previously registered markers changes and the merging wil fail, won’t it? Because the Markers are aligned, not the object…
The Global markers are pre scanned , it don’t cares where your object was or will be if you pre scanned markers where not placed on the object itself it does not matters . I scanned 5 different objects using the same global markers .
It works only with POP3+ at this moment .
If you created and scanned your Global markers on other surface than the object itself , you can use it forever with any objects and positions you want .
Hi all, is there any chance this new global marker option will end up on miraco as well? It looks very nice especially with big objects scans
In the near future … the team is working on it
My wish is that all scanners could use Global Markers , you could set your scanning area once , and scan anything in that area without losing tracking ever again no matter what object you put in the center … I do that now with POP3 Plus … so less time consuming
Global markers are great , especially if you have lots of scanning to perform.
A Youtube tutorial about using the global marker mode in various settings would be really nice!
This is what I get when I reposition the object during global marker mode:
When capturing using global markers you can move the scanner but not the markers or the object .
The scanning using Global Markers do not cares about the objects features so it can’t align it if you move it .
However if you place the Global markers direct on the object only , you can move it all together .
This i just what I presumed, we talked about it a few weeks ago and didn’t understand us properly, I think.
But the merging function of two scans made in marker mode is much better now. And I think even the details are coming out better now.
I should be more specific early , the Global Markers are particularly created to place the markers only on the scanned big objects , like with PMK what is of course different but the ideology is the same .
I like Global Markers because you can scan now objects like bottles or anything that very hard to capture before , like for example the type of object you scanning without the need to place the markers on it .
The new Revo Scan 4 version should already improve the scanning algorithms for all scanners , hence better merging .
The Merging function was never broken , I found the bug somewhere else . So hopefully it just get more improved with the time because I know the team focus on it as we speak .
Yes that is correct since it do not align the frames based on the object features, but based on the market placement.
For that reason if you reuse your Global Markers make sure they do not shift at any cost , if they do shift later ( market distance from another marker) you will lose some quality in precision and accuracy .
If you are not sure if the market moved just scan the markers again and use the newest market cloud scan .
Hi krofinski,
did you already try your setup? Looks way to close with the same space between the markers. You should at least use 3mm markers for that tight alignment. Just my thoughts on that problem. Please let me know if that works out well.
Just did it, and as you predicted, it did not work very well. I only had those markers that came with my Range. I’ll see how can I get/make smaller markers.
Mi plan is to have several silicon mats prepared for specific scenarios.
Thanx for the hint!
