# Trouble shooting with Range

**URL:** <https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/trouble-shooting-with-range/21758>\
**Category:** Issues\
**Created:** [August 14, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/trouble-shooting-with-range/21758 "2023-08-14T18:16:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nick\_Ukrainian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Nick\_Ukrainian](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/Nick_Ukrainian)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/trouble-shooting-with-range/21758/1 "2023-08-14T18:16:55Z")

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Your scans are great. But I can’t figure out how did you make the texture? As far as I know, RevoScan 5.x is not able to make a texture after merging scans. It’s just a problem and a problem.  
I’m still learning how to do scans, but I can’t do it with textures yet. If you have a lesson or video, please share.  
Thank you!

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**Author:** ![PUTV](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/putv/32/15302_2.png) [@PUTV](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/PUTV)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/trouble-shooting-with-range/21758/2 "2023-08-14T18:53:38Z")

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Hi Nick , you don’t always need merge scans , if the object are organic you can just pause change position and scan without merge to keep textures . Mostly objects with lots of features are easy to scan fully without the need to merge them .  
If you have to merge , you can convert the RGB color data to textures using Blender, Zbrush or other 3D editing programs .

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Ukrainian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Nick\_Ukrainian](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/Nick_Ukrainian)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/trouble-shooting-with-range/21758/3 "2023-08-14T19:28:19Z")

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> [@PUTV](#):
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> you don’t always need merge scans , if the object are organic you can just pause change position and scan without merge to keep textures

Thanks for the help. I’ve watched all your tutorials but I still don’t know how to work well enough in Blender or Zbrush.  
I was doing scanning tests all day yesterday (I have a Range scanner) and realized that Revo Scan 4.x is much more stable and better at scanning than version 5.x. This upset me.  
I did not change the position of the scanner (tripod) and did not change the position of the part on the turntable. I used pyramids with markers, but RevoScan 5.x lost tracking 2-3 times per 1 turn of the table.

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Ukrainian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Nick\_Ukrainian](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/Nick_Ukrainian)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/trouble-shooting-with-range/21758/4 "2023-08-14T19:31:26Z")

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> [@PUTV](#):
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> if the object are organic you can just pause change position and scan without merge to keep textures . Mostly objects with lots of features are easy to scan fully without the need to merge them .

Sorry, but I don’t quite understand how I can pause the scan and rotate the model without disturbing the point cloud.  
Could you show an example?

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**Author:** ![PUTV](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/putv/32/15302_2.png) [@PUTV](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/PUTV)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 7:52pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/trouble-shooting-with-range/21758/5 "2023-08-14T19:52:30Z")

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> [@Nick\_Ukrainian](#):
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> Thanks for the help. I’ve watched all your tutorials but I still don’t know how to work well enough in Blender or Zbrush.  
> I was doing scanning tests all day yesterday (I have a Range scanner) and realized that Revo Scan 4.x is much more stable and better at scanning than version 5.x. This upset me.  
> I did not change the position of the scanner (tripod) and did not change the position of the part on the turntable. I used pyramids with markers, but RevoScan 5.x lost tracking 2-3 times per 1 turn of the table.

Revo Scan 4 was not made for scanning with Range , Firmware of Range works best with RS 5.2.3  
Please use the markers on the plate for scanning , pyramids are not ideal for scanning with markers, you need at least couple of markers to be always visible at the distance between them of 4 to 8 cm , so no it was not really the software issue but the markers , also please use only reflective markers or add some extra LED light to the scanning scene , low lighting with no reflective markers can cause issue .

pyramids cant show 4 faces at once while scanning for that reason not much recommend…

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**Author:** ![PUTV](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/putv/32/15302_2.png) [@PUTV](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/PUTV)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/trouble-shooting-with-range/21758/6 "2023-08-14T19:56:30Z")

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> [@Nick\_Ukrainian](#):
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> Sorry, but I don’t quite understand how I can pause the scan and rotate the model without disturbing the point cloud.  
> Could you show an example?

not when you scanning with markers , you cant rotate anything , only if you use organic model with lots of features … you scan one round of 360 frames then you pause , then you rotate the object on a different angle and click start again, and then do another rotation and after that click complete … you need at least 3 angles to be scanned , only to be used in feature mode without makers .

Markers are replacing the features for that reason cant be rotated .  
I don;t want to be rude but we have to move out of this thread as that is @shadows44 showcase thread and not issues thread .

P.S I moved it to a new thread

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Ukrainian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Nick\_Ukrainian](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/Nick_Ukrainian)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 10:45am UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/trouble-shooting-with-range/21758/7 "2023-08-17T10:45:33Z")

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> [@PUTV](#):
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> Markers are replacing the features for that reason cant be rotated .  
> I don;t want to be rude but we have to move out of this thread as that is @shadows44 showcase thread and not issues thread .
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> P.S I moved it to a new thread

Catharina, thanks for moving the conversation to a separate topic. I thought about how to do it but I couldn’t.

I want to show the results of comparing the performance of version 4.x and version 5.x  
I tried to do minimal cloud cleaning and the same camera settings.  
As I said, I am new to 3D scanning but have over 20 years of programming and engineering experience.  
I can evaluate the result.

[![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/2X/2/23e18e5e66de1488e5a871b87e10bccbe8ccc8f3.jpeg "RevoScan 4vs5") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCoIsxCqPac)

 ![4auto_vs5](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/2X/e/eae2d9946b4e89cba4e95a9ec8fad50dc76f5c36.jpeg)  
 ![4vs5_1](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/2X/0/0501166650df8150ef681aedd62d31c5100a134f.jpeg)  
 ![4vs5_2](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/2X/b/b897492e903a5a9aa2f7fdb11795bc0cb10f912c.jpeg)  
 ![Screenshot_4_1](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/2X/f/f6d3347dad93dce5b140114b4fdf08d14b984a3a.jpeg)  
 ![Screenshot_4](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/2X/4/4b91a885905cdd2000ed2aab8542d58e8e67a8ea.jpeg)  
 ![Screenshot_5](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/2X/f/f5f9d24815648c19062941ae9bb6abe84f9b718b.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Nick\_Ukrainian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Nick\_Ukrainian](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/Nick_Ukrainian)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2023, 10:49am UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/trouble-shooting-with-range/21758/8 "2023-08-17T10:49:15Z")

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I understand that such parts are not suitable for the Range scanner, but at the same time it can scan them and get a different result under the same conditions
