# Frame Alignment N/W **URL:** \ **Category:** Issues\ **Created:** [October 16, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230 "2024-10-16T12:48:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![adurand33](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/adurand33/32/21738_2.png) [@adurand33](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/adurand33)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/1 "2024-10-16T12:48:15Z")
Please advise how not to loose frame alignment ![1000009539](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/3X/8/3/8373b2a516a39f00f5fec754e211458c3af60fe8.jpeg) ![1000009538](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/3X/6/6/666daa8886b915c39e7f4c4a4ee8fba3dfd3b28a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![PUTV](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/putv/32/15302_2.png) [@PUTV](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/PUTV)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 12:52pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/2 "2024-10-16T12:52:26Z")
use objects with features , this object do not have any features and requires markers mode , or additional object around it to be capable to keep tracking Structured light scanning heavily depends on object’s features to be able to scan correctly . ---
**Author:** ![kkula9999](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@kkula9999](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/kkula9999)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/3 "2024-10-16T13:29:34Z")
marker mode + marker turntable or put some random clothes nearby, even random shape blutack would work ---
**Author:** ![adurand33](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/adurand33/32/21738_2.png) [@adurand33](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/adurand33)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:00pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/4 "2024-10-16T14:00:52Z")
@PUTV and @kkula9999 you are awesome. I did what you proposed Key marks + stuff around. but still I have 2 bottles after a bit of time. ---
**Author:** ![adurand33](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/adurand33/32/21738_2.png) [@adurand33](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/adurand33)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/5 "2024-10-16T14:03:37Z")
I can use CloudCompare afterward or any other tool managing separated pointclouds, but with RevoScan to export the data, I first have to merge the pointclouds into a single pointcloud, and I so LOOSE the grouped information of points inside their own frame. Please advise. 😥 ---
**Author:** ![krofinski](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f6c823/32.png) [@krofinski](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/krofinski)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/6 "2024-10-16T14:12:56Z")
Hi, try now changing the scanning mode to “marker mode”. You should see an improvement ---
**Author:** ![PUTV](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/putv/32/15302_2.png) [@PUTV](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/PUTV)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/7 "2024-10-16T14:15:18Z")
You need to pay attention at the distance , you should not get too closer , stay in the green area of distance between excellent and good Add small elements next to the bottle, it can be simple box of matches , small crumble paper anything to help keep tracking . Best if you use turntable, you are using Range right ? Try on bigger objects like shoe ---
**Author:** ![adurand33](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/adurand33/32/21738_2.png) [@adurand33](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/adurand33)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:15pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/8 "2024-10-16T14:15:49Z")
I also tried to do it with single shot photo scan (HERE is 2 different scans plus export in ASC) and have some successes to reconnect them but it’s too long for a workable process ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/3X/6/f/6fb53ff286ddb23ed2981ebef3e0399afc84b851.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![kkula9999](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@kkula9999](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/kkula9999)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/9 "2024-10-16T14:18:41Z")
try adjust the scanning distance ---
**Author:** ![adurand33](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/adurand33/32/21738_2.png) [@adurand33](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/adurand33)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/10 "2024-10-16T14:29:44Z")
I am using the RANGE 2 RevoPoint scanner **without** a turntable. Last Monday, I used the RevoScan web app to **TRY** to digitize a statue, but the result was messy. Now, I’m trying to get a workable result / process. This is a test to decide whether to keep or discard the RANGE 2. Unfortunately, I’m unable to complete the scan because each time the frames are misaligned. My problem here is to have a workable result to build a mesh. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/3X/c/1/c15b6389f745d8e6c0f76bc42b42fd978e10cec5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![adurand33](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/adurand33/32/21738_2.png) [@adurand33](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/adurand33)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/11 "2024-10-16T14:37:45Z")
I appreciate the device, app is good in theory but I cannot make it ![result-statuette](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/3X/b/7/b7c41c23688325f611ae55bbaace4716b70b232b.jpeg) ![revoapp1](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/3X/7/2/72d07875a8777dd22738d27191b6ebb43cc79774.jpeg) ![revoapp2](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/3X/2/3/23bb29ba9c598db3c1e2a717f253eb06f2a30403.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![kkula9999](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@kkula9999](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/kkula9999)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:40pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/12 "2024-10-16T14:40:09Z")
may be the bottle you scanning is too small for range series here is i just scanned a cylinder bottle with marker mode ![iShot_2024-10-16_22.34.47](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/3X/7/0/70e14c39e8ae92a783584d7694eb6df29f5be146.jpeg) and feature mode, with some reference model beside the bottle ![iShot_2024-10-16_22.34.11](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/3X/b/2/b27ea0c43c9fd55a130e1bfce28ba69abeaf25dc.jpeg) scanning small object without turntable could be harder, especially bottle-like item with limited feature, but the ‘feature/ marker’ mode concept are similar ---
**Author:** ![adurand33](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/adurand33/32/21738_2.png) [@adurand33](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/adurand33)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/13 "2024-10-16T14:48:06Z")
You use the PC app when you scan? Right? You put markers everytime? Right? You scan constant, no single shot scan? Right? What do you do when a bad frame is wrongly kept? Can you cancel the last movements? Can you decide to keep the good scans? Much appreciated @kkula9999 🎨 ---
**Author:** ![kkula9999](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@kkula9999](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/kkula9999)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/14 "2024-10-16T14:57:29Z")
mac/pc app, yes marker mode, depends on what I scan 🤔, but i use feature mode most of the time, unless scanning less feature item so far i havent use single shot scan mode so far pause scan (not cancel 😂) then use undo button on your right ---
**Author:** ![PUTV](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/putv/32/15302_2.png) [@PUTV](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/PUTV)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/15 "2024-10-16T16:50:21Z")
Hi @adurand33 There is something really wrong with the workflow of yours I am suspecting you need to watch some tutorials to better understand what you are doing . This is not the approach For scanning with structured light scanner . Please follow the advice of others and try to recreate it . It is not that difficult as long you know what you are doing . Please post results based on the advices as that is the only way to success . Keep the distance right and scan objects according to Range 2 Capacity. You should not get much issues scanning the art sculpture but maybe it was too reflective . Try on medium size objects Take a simple shoe and that will be enough to practice on You also use wrong the single frame shot function You don’t scan separate frames to merge them late somewhere else , you need to move around the object and scan it as you would do picture of it so each single frame align with another automatic . You have lots to catch up my friend ! Check Range Tutorials > **[Tutorials](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/c/tutorials/21)** > > Find helpful 3D scanning tutorials and tips here! ---
**Author:** ![adurand33](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/adurand33/32/21738_2.png) [@adurand33](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/adurand33)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/16 "2024-10-17T06:21:07Z")
I watched tutorials and it seems I need a turn table because most of the time it’s PC connection plus turn table. Right? A turntable with a **30 to 50 cm diameter** , in **matte black** or **dark gray** , would be a good choice for scanning a medium-sized statue. Right? 🤩 ---
**Author:** ![SphaeroX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@SphaeroX](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/SphaeroX)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 8:46am UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/17 "2024-10-17T08:46:36Z")
you don’t need a turntable, here’s a video recorded especially for you, early in the morning before first coffee [![](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/uploads/revopoint3d/original/3X/5/7/571d6cecf74b53b3a5c42b8bfb5fd6559342d62e.jpeg "Revopoint Miraco Example") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KvctQAAazc) ---
**Author:** ![kkula9999](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3ab097/32.png) [@kkula9999](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/kkula9999)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 8:57am UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/18 "2024-10-17T08:57:58Z")
whats the photogrammetry advantage in your opinion🙇‍♀️? ---
**Author:** ![adurand33](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/adurand33/32/21738_2.png) [@adurand33](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/adurand33)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 9:02am UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/19 "2024-10-17T09:02:11Z")
Thank you my friend, seems so easy in your hands, I will try for sure to be as good as you are 🎩 ---
**Author:** ![adurand33](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex029/user_avatar/forum.revopoint3d.com/adurand33/32/21738_2.png) [@adurand33](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/u/adurand33)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 9:04am UTC](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230/20 "2024-10-17T09:04:52Z")
I tried using Meshroom and followed tutorials like the Monster Tree one, which seemed so easy. However, when I took my own photos, the results weren’t as successful. 😥 [Next page](https://forum.revopoint3d.com/t/frame-alignment-n-w/29230.md?page=2)